Show #104: Bear-swatting Expedition

The hunnerdfourthth episode of our podcast, Paul and Storm Talk About Some Stuff for Five to Ten Minutes (On Average), is now online.

This week’s episode: the inevitable JoCo Cruise Crazy post-mortem; figuring out what “yeoman’s work” entails; Storm conquers Dunn’s River Falls; low-impact snorkeling; watching the uninitiated adjust to the Geek Maelstrom; personal highlights form the trip; everybody loves Mike Phirman; and bum-wiping service. Also, Storm’s computer craps out at the end.

Show #104: Bear-swatting Expedition



  1. Joey
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Ooh! I knew John Roderick through a geeky-nerdy circle! “The Commander Thinks Aloud” was the post-show song for podcast #54 (, and I was blown away when I heard it. And hearing it on the cruise videos rehooked me on the song–it’s just so good!

  2. Brett Glass
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    For the next event, how about taking over a resort that’s NOT afloat in the Caribbean and far from Wi-Fi? I can only spend time away from my business if I can check in (not constantly, but at least once a day) via the Net. I can suggest a few – some secluded, some near fun things to do.

  3. Lena
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    Re: People swarming around in Jamaica, trying to sell you stuff.

    You’ll get this kind of thing in a lot of parts of the world. You’ll even get this at the Western Wall in Jerusalem. Complaining about it *kind* of gives off that “ugly American” thing…

  4. Posted January 13, 2011 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    Massive highlight of the cruise for my family was my son Dane’s taking of the Best in Terms of Pants trophy, which was apparently constructed from thrown panties.

  5. Adrienne
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 10:57 pm | Permalink

    @Lena: It was really less the people trying to get you to buy things, and more the feeling that you really needed to pay them to keep them from harassing or harming you. “No, thank you” did nothing.

    @Charlie the Beer Guy: Man, I would not have wanted to explain that to my kid…

  6. Posted January 14, 2011 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    I am so there next year.

  7. Posted January 14, 2011 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Taking advice from Randall, we walked off the ship in Jamaica looking to book an excursion then. Nearly got completely ripped off by a taxi van who wanted $300 from 5 of us for all the things we wanted to do. In our minds that was a good deal since we assumed it included entry fees, found out soon enough it didn’t and managed to get off the van and get a reasonable excursion. Imagine our horror if we’d paid before finding this out. The excursion points were minutes away.

    Realized, as my friend Kristin pointed out, that the Dunn River falls are pretty much constructed out of concrete. Which looked pretty good, but it is slightly disappointing. None-the-less we had a great time climbing them. And riding the chair lift up the mountain and riding the bob sled ride. Wheee!

    It feels like you could fill a whole ship to me. All my friends are saying they wish they’d went and would love to go next time.

  8. Karen
    Posted January 15, 2011 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    On the cruise, Roderick’s “The Commander Thinks Aloud” made me cry. Watching it on YouTube afterwards, it made me cry. Listening to P&S podcast about it made me cry. Hell, I’m almost crying now. Will now go watch the YouTube of P&S performing “Ten Fingered Johnny” to make me smile again.

    Oh, and since I submitted my cruise questionnaire before I thought of this, allow me to recommend John Scalzi as an additional performer for the next cruise. Which I will *so* be on! 🙂

  9. Laura
    Posted January 17, 2011 at 1:13 am | Permalink

    My husband and I wanted desperately to be on the cruise, but for two factors: 1) time of year, and 2) location. Neither of us could get the time off, and plane tickets for that far away (we’re up in Vancouver) are a bit pricey. Since you asked, we would love it if the next JoCo Cruise Crazy happened to be en route to Alaska in the Spring or Summer. I’m sure there’s one leaving Seattle regularly – they certainly do from Vancouver.

  10. Posted January 18, 2011 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    I retract my earlier statement about the falls being made of concrete. You could see that there were parts made of concrete, and my friend assumed it was all that way; but from wikipedia: Dunn’s River Falls are described by geologists as “a living phenomenon” because they are continuously rebuilt from deposits of calcium carbonate and sodium from the river water.
    The waterfalls are terraced like giant stair steps of which some are man-made improvements.'s_River_Falls


  11. Posted January 19, 2011 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    Paul, why did you have a beard? You look strange.

  12. Lena
    Posted January 25, 2011 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    @Adrienne So you just walk away. It has happened to me plenty in a lot of places. It’s not a big deal…I’m just so grateful not to be in the U.S. that none of that stuff bothers me.

  13. Another Josh
    Posted January 27, 2011 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    But why no love for the antepenultimate minions?

  14. Robin (the Mini-Minion)
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Man, do I wish I could’ve been on the cruise, but I’m having a grand time experiencing it vicariously through YouTube. Three cheers for living in the future!

    Looking forward to seeing you guys live at PAX East again. 🙂

  15. Colin
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    Hey guys! This latest podcast isn’t showing up in iTunes which means I can’t listen to it! WAAAAH! 🙁

  16. Posted February 3, 2011 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    I just listened to this; I’m one of those people who might have listened to it on shuffle in 2014 if I hadn’t been on the cruise and realised I’d better check if there was a podcast about it.

    I can handle people aggressively trying to sell me stuff; I saw that a lot (as well as all the guys asking us out for coffee) in Tunisia and could eventually get rid of them by speaking to my friend in Maori, since that’s the only language they didn’t know. The thing that was difficult about Jamaica is that everyone would try to ‘give’ you stuff, claim they were free and already carve your name on it or cut it to size without your asking them to before demanding tips. So people get guilted into buying something they didn’t want because it was personalised. Meanwhile, one guy was really helpful, and I had decided to tip him, but he put me straight into the van to go back before giving me back my bag with my wallet in it, so I didn’t get a chance.

    Luckily, I had already decided to get my hair braided before even going on the cruise, so I could lazily give in to that particular pressure.

    Anyway, the cruise was the most awesome week ever. 400 geeks on a boat who all have the same schedule and many of the same interests. Molly described it pretty well in her blog. I still keep expecting to see random sea monkeys all over the place.

    I had Phirm’s album already, and I knew Hard ‘n Phirm, so he wasn’t exactly new to me, but now I know why everyone has a man-crush on him. Actually it was Rifftrax, Wil Wheaton and John Roderick that I discovered on the cruise; they may seem like the most famous ones to some of you, but I was only barely familiar with their stuff. Oh, and David Rees.

    Here’s a playlist of the videos I took of the Paul and Storm show (I think they were in practically all the shows, but this was their one) including the ‘crotch shot’ version of Ten-Finger Johnny:

    I think I still need to add links to some of the songs in the video descriptions… and I think my eyes are going to turn YouTube-shaped if I keep uploading stuff for too long.

  17. Trent Turner
    Posted May 8, 2013 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    Ahhh. I’m too early, it’s only 2013! But I have watched most of the Youtubes and my wife and I desperatly want to go on one of these. JOCO 4 is booking now. Wonder who will be on JOCO 20, the Retirement Cruise?

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